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yet, jay carney says this on the 18th. play this. >> the initial information, that includes all information, we saw no evidence to back up claims by others that this was a preplanned or premeditated attack, that we saw evidence it was sparked by the reaction to this video. and that's what we know so far. based on the concrete evidence, not supposition but concrete evidence we have thus far. >> bret: there are five e-mails here and let alone e-mails we heard from ambassador stevens on the day he died even about the concern about al-qaeda in benghazi. concrete evidence? >> when you say there is no evidence you are telling a falsehood, if you had just said the weight of the evidence or we think "x," it's the video, that is one thing. if you say there was no evidence it was premeditated attack and we have the evidence we see in e-mail claim, and the fact that the station chief is saying it's premeditated acta, all this evidence, that is simply not so. then the president saying on the daily show last week that we were releasing
yet, jay carney says this on the 18th. play this. >> the initial information, that includes all information, we saw no evidence to back up claims by others that this was a preplanned or premeditated attack, that we saw evidence it was sparked by the reaction to this video. and that's what we know so far. based on the concrete evidence, not supposition but concrete evidence we have thus far. >> bret: there are five e-mails here and let alone e-mails we heard from ambassador stevens...
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when jay carney says to our guy ed henry we don't nolg know anything about. this don't you think that president obama, with all the power that he has, could come out and say we're trying to get him released. you don't have to -- jo expect him to threaten mexico. i don't expect him to diminish the new president or lodge any charges. that's my job. i will do that but certainly the president can say we are very concerned woe would like mexico mexico to do the humanitarian thing and release him. what would be wrong with that senator? >> i hope that that happens by december 25th. >> bill: why hasn't it happened since august? it's now december. come on. why hasn't it happened? >> well, bill, you and i know that the president has got so much to attend to. that's why i cited abraham lincoln. greatness is defined and you know this, senator. >> let's get him out. let's get him out. first of all, here's where the breakdown is. and by the way, i have talked to the mexican ambassador to the united states now several times. most recently today by the way he is a good guy.
when jay carney says to our guy ed henry we don't nolg know anything about. this don't you think that president obama, with all the power that he has, could come out and say we're trying to get him released. you don't have to -- jo expect him to threaten mexico. i don't expect him to diminish the new president or lodge any charges. that's my job. i will do that but certainly the president can say we are very concerned woe would like mexico mexico to do the humanitarian thing and release him....
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jay carney is starting the daily briefing today. we'll perhaps get more insight on where the president stands and on the developing news with david petraeus. let's listen. >> welcome back to the white house briefing room. it's a pleasure to be back. we haven't done this too often of late since we've all been traveling. i want to thank all of you who traveled with us over the past several weeks and months. i know that it was sometimes grueling, i'm sure ever fascinating and certainly part of what is is a remarkable process. it was just a reminder of the greatness of the country in which we live. before i take your questions, let me give you this announcement. next thursday the president will travel to new york to review recovery efforts, meet with affected families and local officials, and thank brave first responders who have worked tirelessly to protect communities following hurricane sandy. more details about the trip will be announced when they're available. >> that's new york city or new york area? >> new york area. earlier toda
jay carney is starting the daily briefing today. we'll perhaps get more insight on where the president stands and on the developing news with david petraeus. let's listen. >> welcome back to the white house briefing room. it's a pleasure to be back. we haven't done this too often of late since we've all been traveling. i want to thank all of you who traveled with us over the past several weeks and months. i know that it was sometimes grueling, i'm sure ever fascinating and certainly part...
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jay carney hernlgd on whether they were ever briefed. he said they never got any actionable intelligence about an impending terror attack at that consulate. that leaves the door open to other briefings about security issues there. i pressed jay on that point. does this mean that the president and vice president are sort of passing things over to the state department? take a listen. >> reporter: you say on libiate buck stops with the state department on security? it doesn't stop at the white house? >> that's an inartful made for television phrasing. but the fact of the matter is. >> you are saying the president don't make those assessments is what you say. >> there are thousands of diplomatic personnel around the world and countless facilities around the world. i'm saying when it comes to the number of personnel who are in place at consulates and embassies and other diplomatic facility around the world, those decisions are appropriately made at the state department by security personnel. when it comes to funding, yes, this president fight
jay carney hernlgd on whether they were ever briefed. he said they never got any actionable intelligence about an impending terror attack at that consulate. that leaves the door open to other briefings about security issues there. i pressed jay on that point. does this mean that the president and vice president are sort of passing things over to the state department? take a listen. >> reporter: you say on libiate buck stops with the state department on security? it doesn't stop at the...
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next day jay carney tells a different story. that it is "self-evident what happened and benghazi was a terrorist attack. suddenly was self-evident and suddenly a terrorist atck. but then a bomb ahd is on s words in the interview with the new vision. >> the white house said today it was a terrorist attacks. >> we're still doing an investigation. i don want to speak to something until we have all of theinformation. we don't know yet. lou: the next day secretary clinton states unequivocably the events were a terrorist attack that the mysteries and had known nearly two weeks. >> what happened in benghazi was a terrorist attack. we wll not rest until we trk down and bring to justice the terrorist to murdered four americans. lou: three days ter obama's still hedging even though the top diplomat has revealed the true nature of the attacks. the present sits down with his friends on the view. >> i heard hillary clinton say it is an act of terrorism. >> we're still doing the investigation. no doubt the weaps hat reduced common the ongoing
next day jay carney tells a different story. that it is "self-evident what happened and benghazi was a terrorist attack. suddenly was self-evident and suddenly a terrorist atck. but then a bomb ahd is on s words in the interview with the new vision. >> the white house said today it was a terrorist attacks. >> we're still doing an investigation. i don want to speak to something until we have all of theinformation. we don't know yet. lou: the next day secretary clinton states...
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chris, alissa, according to the white house, according to jay carney, this is a multi-day exercise in futility. he said that -- he reiterated the president would veto it, but it won't even get out of the senate. >> they will not vote on the proposal in any way, shape, or form. this is an interesting gambit by john boehner, andrea, because i see a lot of down side. if this vote goes down, and i assume it won't, john boehner made a very public pledge yesterday that we will pass this and when we do, the president will have a decision to make. but if it goes down, it's a real judgment on sort of the divided republican house conference. if it passes, there's no path forward at least that we can currently see. as you point on the president obama and harry reid saying this is going nowhere. the argument, i talked to some boehner allies today -- the argument shows, look, it shows we're doing something. we're trying to get a plan that will get -- that can get through the u.s. house, but, again, we're getting closer and closer now 11 days away from the end of the year, and this is an exercise t
chris, alissa, according to the white house, according to jay carney, this is a multi-day exercise in futility. he said that -- he reiterated the president would veto it, but it won't even get out of the senate. >> they will not vote on the proposal in any way, shape, or form. this is an interesting gambit by john boehner, andrea, because i see a lot of down side. if this vote goes down, and i assume it won't, john boehner made a very public pledge yesterday that we will pass this and...
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jay carney saying, as making pretty clear. all of these demonstrations of violence and assassinations are not about the obama doctrine, obama policies, or america. what in the world, what is going on here? >> to "the rev. jeremiah right, the chickens are coming home to roost for barack obama. this is a president to win out there to the middle east, apologized for our history there, tried to appease them, showed a lack of strength and resolve in terms of american foreign policy and is reaping the world right now. it was -- lou: it was such a sad and solemn ceremony today. andrews air force base. for americans bodies were returned to this country. but all i kid think at the outset of that ceremony is the president the secretary of state , the president to decided, as this tragic event unfolded to not change his schedule, go out to las vegas and campaign rather than stand his post. but in your mind could be going on here? >> i think every calculation in the white house today, even the death of an ambassador is strained through th
jay carney saying, as making pretty clear. all of these demonstrations of violence and assassinations are not about the obama doctrine, obama policies, or america. what in the world, what is going on here? >> to "the rev. jeremiah right, the chickens are coming home to roost for barack obama. this is a president to win out there to the middle east, apologized for our history there, tried to appease them, showed a lack of strength and resolve in terms of american foreign policy and is...
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so for what is jay carney -- why is he still doing this? >> i think it's the president's view that it was the video. that's why i think it's ideology. look, i understand people say the administration's lying, this is a coverup. for the sake of our country, i wish i could believe it were a coverup buzz that would acknowledge that they understood reality. it was inconvenient and they were trying to obscure it. i fear it's more the ideology -- >> greta: but ideology has to stem from some sort of facts. there is no fact to suggest that the video -- had had anything to do with the video in the state department. they say, at 8:30 at night when the ambassador went outside, there is nothing unusual. there has been nothing unusual during the day all outside. where does president obama get the video there? >> let's ask this question. how many communication was going on from the state department to the white house? before the white house started talking through jay carny and through others and through, as carney says, the administrationwide assessment
so for what is jay carney -- why is he still doing this? >> i think it's the president's view that it was the video. that's why i think it's ideology. look, i understand people say the administration's lying, this is a coverup. for the sake of our country, i wish i could believe it were a coverup buzz that would acknowledge that they understood reality. it was inconvenient and they were trying to obscure it. i fear it's more the ideology -- >> greta: but ideology has to stem from...
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this remains under investigation. >> now jay carney aboard air force one told reporters itself evident that this was a terror attack. different from what the administration has been saying all week. >> we are at the very early stages of an fbi investigation. the teams from the fbi reached libya earlier this week, and i will advise congress also that i am launching an accountability review board that will be chaired by ambassador thomas pickerring. >> clearly a terrorist attack. but exactly who perpetrated it is the question. >> we went through a very exhaust i have effort to try to take those prisoners at gitmo and to rehabilitate them. but we have seen instances, both in iraq and afghanistan, and for that matter pakistan, where former detain s have been involved in planning and executing attacks against americans abroad. >> on the issue of -- with libya today, it is stunning the lack of coordination between the intelligence community and the state department. >> what do we know? we know it was a terror attack. it was planned two or three days in advance. we knew it had nothing to do w
this remains under investigation. >> now jay carney aboard air force one told reporters itself evident that this was a terror attack. different from what the administration has been saying all week. >> we are at the very early stages of an fbi investigation. the teams from the fbi reached libya earlier this week, and i will advise congress also that i am launching an accountability review board that will be chaired by ambassador thomas pickerring. >> clearly a terrorist...
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i got called the next day and he said... >> rose: "he" being jay carney? >> jay carney saying "we're interested in doing this." >> i said "who's we?" he said "the president is interested in doing this." i said "that's kind of great, what about everybody else at the white house?" he said "we're not very interested in doing it." (laughter) so he said i don't know, he said jay was... jay was interested in it, he's a journalist, he knew what i was getting at. he said come on in and just meet some people and we'll see if we can assuage people's nerves about this. and it wasn't to meet the president it was just to meet the powers that be around him. and so i went in and did what amounted to like a goldman sachs job interview, meeting all the honchos and i went from room to room to room in the course of the day and at the end of it... it was interesting... >> rose: what was their worry? >> i think they just wanted to see who i was. because nobody was saying "what are you going to write?" except very broadly i said this thing i want to do is at least as much about
i got called the next day and he said... >> rose: "he" being jay carney? >> jay carney saying "we're interested in doing this." >> i said "who's we?" he said "the president is interested in doing this." i said "that's kind of great, what about everybody else at the white house?" he said "we're not very interested in doing it." (laughter) so he said i don't know, he said jay was... jay was interested in it, he's a...
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. >> current white house press secretary jay carney says so flat out the next day. >> these protests were in reaction to a video. no information to suggest it was preplanned attack. >> then when they reach the deceased at fort andrews, they talk again at the video. >> we have seen rage and violence over awful internet video we had nothing to do with. >> september 15, california authorities call the man who produced that video in for questioning. and marched him in front of tv cameras. >> do you have any regrets? >> susan rice goes on five sunday talk shows repeating the same story each time. >> it was spontaneous reaction to what transpired in cairo response to video. >> my rezax is where is secretary of state hillary clinton? >> john bolton served as u.s. ambassador under bush, the choice of rice is telling. >> from my own experience when you are a senior american official, you don't go on the sunday talk shows unless you're the white house choice. >> there were already internal difficulties within the administration. perhaps secretary clinton wasn't seen by the white house as the b
. >> current white house press secretary jay carney says so flat out the next day. >> these protests were in reaction to a video. no information to suggest it was preplanned attack. >> then when they reach the deceased at fort andrews, they talk again at the video. >> we have seen rage and violence over awful internet video we had nothing to do with. >> september 15, california authorities call the man who produced that video in for questioning. and marched him in...
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susan rice, jay carney was going out of his way to say it was a terrorist attack. the president himself went to the u.n. several weeks later, still talking about the tape. they were talking about a demonstration that was never held. i would expect the president to say on september 12th, this was a terrorist attack. but to ignore the fact that al-qaeda affiliates from that region, there had been terrorist attacks before, to me, this was politics at its worst. >> you've accused the administration of telling misleading stories and contradicts stories and to be fair, administration officials did talk about the movie being to blame. they did say the attack wasn't premedicated and were at least inconsistent on the word, terror. rudy giuliani said this wasn't the result of confusion, incompetence, i'm going to quote him, sounds like a cover up. would you go that far? >> yes, i would. i'm not saying this is a criminal cover up. this is a political cover up because it went against the president's narrative. he could not acknowledge there was a terrorist attack because he ha
susan rice, jay carney was going out of his way to say it was a terrorist attack. the president himself went to the u.n. several weeks later, still talking about the tape. they were talking about a demonstration that was never held. i would expect the president to say on september 12th, this was a terrorist attack. but to ignore the fact that al-qaeda affiliates from that region, there had been terrorist attacks before, to me, this was politics at its worst. >> you've accused the...
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jay carney said gun control is only part of the president's plan. he said it requires more than just legislation to prevent more shootings like friday's. fox news chief white house correspondent, ed henry, with our report. >> crowds in connecticut lined up for the first of 26 funerals starting with 6-year-old noah h posner, and in washington, they fell back into the ritual of vowing never again. >> twenty children who will never grow up to learn to drive or go on the first date. >> doesn't just break our hearts, but shatters them. >> yet neither senate leader called for gun laws, and at the white house, jay carney vague on specifics tied to theecrusade president obama hunted october. >> there's common sense measures that he believes should be taken to help address this problem, but he made clear that more needs to be done. >> reporter: far more he has at that particular time that the president at that dramatic prayer service. >> i'll use whatever power this office holds to engage my fellow citizens from law enforcement to mental health professionals
jay carney said gun control is only part of the president's plan. he said it requires more than just legislation to prevent more shootings like friday's. fox news chief white house correspondent, ed henry, with our report. >> crowds in connecticut lined up for the first of 26 funerals starting with 6-year-old noah h posner, and in washington, they fell back into the ritual of vowing never again. >> twenty children who will never grow up to learn to drive or go on the first date....
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that's the jay carney said they don't blame the president, don't blame the vice-president. don't blame me. nobody told us. we are in the dark. >> there is no question, neither the president nor the vice-president will be involved in the nitty-gritty of hundreds of decisions around the world. but in a high-threat mission with evidence of al qaeda attacks against other missions, where for goodness sakes, the red cross has withdrawn with benghazi! which lives in the environment of war, thought it was too dangerous. that's something that the president and the vice-president, certainly, the secretary of state, should be aware of, all the time. >> greta: all right. nobel peace prize to the e.u., the european union. >> well, it could have been worse, they could have given it to barack obama again. this is the example of the trivialization and the polittization of the whole nobel peace prize process and a fundamental misconception about why europe is at peace. it is not the european union, it is because of american power and the nato alliance because we sheltered europe in the cold
that's the jay carney said they don't blame the president, don't blame the vice-president. don't blame me. nobody told us. we are in the dark. >> there is no question, neither the president nor the vice-president will be involved in the nitty-gritty of hundreds of decisions around the world. but in a high-threat mission with evidence of al qaeda attacks against other missions, where for goodness sakes, the red cross has withdrawn with benghazi! which lives in the environment of war,...
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i guess jay carney spoke out about this today. >> he did. 'cause there has been conflicting information as you suggest. some administration officials have said look, this was not a preplanned, premeditated attack. that's the opposite, as you know, as to what the libyan president and others have suggested. u.s. intelligence sources have told fox that the u.s. government was warned by libyan officials that violence was increasing in benghazi and that the libyan government may not be able to control it. so i pressed jay carney on whether we got some kind of a warning. take a listen. >> the administration have any sort of heads up that violence was increasing specifically in libya before the attack? >> i'm not aware of any, ed. this is a matter that's under investigation in terms of what precipitated the attack, what the motivations were, what role the video played in that. >> the president taped an interview with david letterman running later tonight and he says he has a new message for the muslim world. they need to work with the u.s. to prote
i guess jay carney spoke out about this today. >> he did. 'cause there has been conflicting information as you suggest. some administration officials have said look, this was not a preplanned, premeditated attack. that's the opposite, as you know, as to what the libyan president and others have suggested. u.s. intelligence sources have told fox that the u.s. government was warned by libyan officials that violence was increasing in benghazi and that the libyan government may not be able to...
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jay carney said the international community needs to act but we don't want to take action that would contribute to the further militarization. >> i don't know which opposition forces we would armpit's hard to imagine syria being any more militarized than it is. i think we should have worked on it a decade ago but we didn't. if you are not prepared to take action again rogue states like this that terrorize their own people and you aren't willing to make the hard decision for regime change, this what is you end up with. megyn: if we don't take on that huge battle with iran, that 4-year-old boy gives an image. he is dying before our very eyes, shelled by his own government. we heard a report about all these babies in incubators dying because they shelled the hospital. these are babies and children who are dying. we help in so many places on ought globe. what are we doing here? >> this a consequence of american inattention and weakness. nobody thinks we have a strong position in the region. the russians and the chinese vetoes the administration's only plan which was a security council re
jay carney said the international community needs to act but we don't want to take action that would contribute to the further militarization. >> i don't know which opposition forces we would armpit's hard to imagine syria being any more militarized than it is. i think we should have worked on it a decade ago but we didn't. if you are not prepared to take action again rogue states like this that terrorize their own people and you aren't willing to make the hard decision for regime change,...
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>> jay carney is trying to say they always thought it was a terrorist attack. of course it was terrorist attack by the description you have given. but we have seen they didn't always acknowledge it's a terrorist attack. they're still not giving on the claim they made, they staked their argument on that this was spontaneous. this was just people who got riled up and picked up the rpgs and decided to commit this attack. >> i talk to the folks in the intelligence world today who said this is virtually nobody thinks this was spontaneous anymore. the only people making that argument are administration officials. obama political appointees. the word used is fiasco. this looks like fiasco going down. the biggest news coming out of the last 24 hours after you reported possible involvement of this former gitmo detainee. >> bret: the guy sufyan bin qumu. we have a new picture of a guy let go of gitmo in 2007. >> the news in the last 24 hours after that is existence of the report prepared bay pentagon counter terrorism group. first reported by my colleague tom jofflin at
>> jay carney is trying to say they always thought it was a terrorist attack. of course it was terrorist attack by the description you have given. but we have seen they didn't always acknowledge it's a terrorist attack. they're still not giving on the claim they made, they staked their argument on that this was spontaneous. this was just people who got riled up and picked up the rpgs and decided to commit this attack. >> i talk to the folks in the intelligence world today who said...
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saw jay carney a lot of questions about the scandal. one of the things i want to follow up here, and i think several reporters were trying to get to this, jay carney said a couple of times it was fbi protocol when the president was notify ed, you have an investigation that happens weeks, if not months but notified of general patreaus wednesday and general allen on friday. is the president satisfied that this is -- that he was notified in a timely manner? his satisfied with the fbi protocol in. >> well, i would refer to what jay said. he said the president is surprised this isn't what you're looking for the first week that you're elected. that the administration's moving swiftly on it and i expect they'll see it through. in the meantime i think that people will be looking for answers and the administration's looking to find the answers that the american people are looking for. >> do you know if there's anything afoot, any effort made on the white house behalf to change the fbi protocol so the president would be notified of these kind of
saw jay carney a lot of questions about the scandal. one of the things i want to follow up here, and i think several reporters were trying to get to this, jay carney said a couple of times it was fbi protocol when the president was notify ed, you have an investigation that happens weeks, if not months but notified of general patreaus wednesday and general allen on friday. is the president satisfied that this is -- that he was notified in a timely manner? his satisfied with the fbi protocol in....
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so is jay carney. they repeat what they are told and they don't exercise good judgment and ask questions, saying how do you know that? why do you know that? if they did ask the questions, we ought to know. it is not that they are bad people. but they don't have good judgment to ask questions. >> look, there are basically two ways you can perform in the government at a senior level. you can be the tool of you're bureaucracy. i have known secretaries of state that i would put in that category, or you can be a real policy leader that. frequently means, it inevitably means questioning and challenging what the bureaucracy serves up to you. but i think if you -- if you don't perform that role, then you are not performing to the expectation of being a senior official in the government. that's why i say, there are two basic philosophies of how you perform in government here. if you want to promote somebody who reads talking points, that's fine. i believe the president should basically get his nominee for execu
so is jay carney. they repeat what they are told and they don't exercise good judgment and ask questions, saying how do you know that? why do you know that? if they did ask the questions, we ought to know. it is not that they are bad people. but they don't have good judgment to ask questions. >> look, there are basically two ways you can perform in the government at a senior level. you can be the tool of you're bureaucracy. i have known secretaries of state that i would put in that...
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jay carney repeatedly tried to deny the fact. megyn: we know those facts happened. but when you have access to petraeus, testifying before you, what are you going to ask him? >> exactly was he in contact with the state department that night, what was he told, what information was he told. what did his cia station people in libya tell him. why did he come forward with this version that involved a video. what was that based on in view of the fact we know that night people at the compound in benghazi were saying this was a terrorist attack. why were these people on the ground saying one thing and why was he and the administration officials saying something else. we have to get the whole time line as to what they were told, when they were told and why they came up with the story in the first place. megyn: clapper is the one who copped to his group, we are the ones who gave the white house the talking points memo that spoke of a video. to this moment do we know why he did that? what specifically he was basing that on? >> the reason we look at the memo carefully, it was p
jay carney repeatedly tried to deny the fact. megyn: we know those facts happened. but when you have access to petraeus, testifying before you, what are you going to ask him? >> exactly was he in contact with the state department that night, what was he told, what information was he told. what did his cia station people in libya tell him. why did he come forward with this version that involved a video. what was that based on in view of the fact we know that night people at the compound in...
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carney, other representatives of the obama administration were still pushing the video story when we knew that in real time they had a lot better picture of what was going on. the e-mails. they could see with the drones what was going on and there were mortars and a lot of things about it but still pushed on and on with the video story. >> that gets harder and harder to understand. the most revealing aspect of the video story was the statement by the father of one of the seals who died so heroically trying to protect the other americans that when the bodies came back to andrews air force base that secretary clinton said we are going to arrest the guy that made the video and prosecute him. right there in this very emotional moment with the four dead americans being greeted on their return to the united states the secretary of state was talking about the video to the father of one of the dead heros. >> greta: am a bass dorland, thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> straight ahead, 11 days until the election. the candidates hammering the swing states. could it all come down to, no, not ohio
carney, other representatives of the obama administration were still pushing the video story when we knew that in real time they had a lot better picture of what was going on. the e-mails. they could see with the drones what was going on and there were mortars and a lot of things about it but still pushed on and on with the video story. >> that gets harder and harder to understand. the most revealing aspect of the video story was the statement by the father of one of the seals who died so...
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and the press secretary, jay carney, is i think likewise, subject to legitimate criticism. i assume that he has access to information and for many days, maybe not 73 days, but they have done everything they could not to get the facts out. if they want to end it, it's simple, just get the facts out. quit trying to hide them. i don't understand why everyone gives them the pass except cbs and fox on that. >> exactly, gret a. that's the bottom line. just be straight with the people. that's all we expect of our government, is honesty. so that we can, as the people being served, so we can judge the decisions being made. and jay carney, just so obstinate and arrogant really, in his replies and in his exarchals with the media over this. if i were a member of the media, being talked to and scolded as jay carney does to them, i would be quite offended and it would make me want to be an even better reporter and better investigator of what the facts truly are with this libya tragedy. >> the dirty little secret in washington, on both sides of the aisle, you will lose access -- you have
and the press secretary, jay carney, is i think likewise, subject to legitimate criticism. i assume that he has access to information and for many days, maybe not 73 days, but they have done everything they could not to get the facts out. if they want to end it, it's simple, just get the facts out. quit trying to hide them. i don't understand why everyone gives them the pass except cbs and fox on that. >> exactly, gret a. that's the bottom line. just be straight with the people. that's...